"Don't you hate pants?!?"
The guys are at Mason Ale Works and they're joined by a guest, so all bets are off.
Darren and John are joined by Cesar Torres to talk about pants, facial hair, hidden shopping gems near the border, San Diegans rooting for teams in Los Angeles, the craft beer industry, jukeboxes and a whole lot more.
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